John Sach and Eliza Young

Holy Trinity, Southchurch - East end
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John Sach (b. 1839 in North Benfleet), son of Joseph Sach and (purportedly) Sarah West, married Eliza Young (b. 1841), daughter of Henry Young and Harriet Tuff, at Holy Trinity Church, Southchurch, Southend-on-Sea, Essex, on 27 Sep 1862.

Records exist for at least six children:

1. Walter Sach b. 23 Jul 1863 (S Quarter in BILLERICAY Volume 04A Page 144), bap. 13 Sep 1863, at Pitsea, St Michael, parents John and Eliza Such.
2. Eliza Ann Sach b. 1869 D Quarter in MALDON Volume 04A Page 240, bap. 23 Mar 1870 in Latchingdon with Snoreham. Parents are John and Eliza.
3. Edith Sach b. 1872 S Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 244, bap. 29 Sep 1872 in Prittlewell, in this font at Saint Mary's Parish Church
4. Alice Sach b. 26 Mar 1875 J Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 257, bap. 9 May 1875 at Holy Trinity Church, Southchurch, Essex
5. John William Sach b. 3 Jun 1878 (S Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 292), bap. 30 Jun 1878 at Holy Trinity Church, Southchurch, Essex
6. Joseph Harry Sach b. 4 Nov 1880 (D Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 336), bap. 12 Dec 1880 at Holy Trinity Church, Southchurch, Essex

On the GRO registrations for Eliza Ann and for John William, the mother's maiden name is given as Youngs, and it is listed as Young, singular, on all the rest.

In 1871, John Sach (29) Agricultural Labourer, was at Barnes Farm, Prittlewell, with Eliza Sach (30), Walter Sach (7), Eliza Sach (3) and Ellen Sach [Edith] (1), as well as two Lodgers, John Beauman (29) and John Austria (24).

In 1881, living at 1, Wick Cottages, Southchurch, Rochford, Essex, listed as James Sach (39) Agricultural Labourer, born in North Benfleet, Essex, is head of the household, with wife Eliza (40) from Laindon Hills, Essex. They list the children as Eliza Edith (11) - assume they mean Eliza Ann - born in Prittlewell, Essex, then Edith (8) born in Latchingdon, Essex - clearly, they've transposed the two birthplaces; then Alice (6), John (2) and Harry (0), the last three born in Southchurch, Essex. Also in the household were four lodgers: John Clemence (31), George West (20), Charles Prentice (19) and James Bush (20), all also Agricultural Labourers. George West and James Bush were from Hockley, Essex, where John's parents lived. His mother, Sarah's, maiden name was reputedly West.

In 1891, listed as Edith Sack (sic), then 18, was working as a General Servant Domestic for an Optician in Sebert Road, West Ham (She later married James Peterken in West Ham in 1897 and this explains why she was in the area.) That year also, Alice Sach (16) was employed as a Domestic Servant to Arthur G Endicott (28) Confidential Clerk, in Princes Street, Prittlewell, Essex. 

In 1901, John Sach (58) Horseman on farm, from North Benfleet, Essex and wife Eliza (59) from Laindon Hills, Essex, were living in Clay Street, Great Wakering, then a village in the Rochford District in Essex, approximately four miles east of Southend-on-Sea, although like most of the villages they lived in, is now a suburb of that city. Alice Sach (26) was still employed as a Domestic Servant by Arthur Endicott in Prittlewell. (Alice Sach never married: she was listed in Rochford in 1921, Benfleet in 1939 and died a spinster, aged 65, in 1941.)

John Sach (67) was buried on 13 Mar 1909 at St Nicholas, Great Wakering. 

In 1911, Eliza Sach (70) Widowed, OAP was living in High St, Gt Wakering.

Eliza Sach (74) was buried, on 18 Feb 1915, also at St Nicholas, Great Wakering.

Farrow Salter and Esther Mason

The church of St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth
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Farrow Salter (bap. 25 Nov 1730 at St Margaret's, Lowestoft), son of Farrow and Rebecca Salter, married Esther Mason (bap. 19 Aug 1733 at St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth), daughter of James and Eliza Mason, at St Nicholas Church, Great Yarmouth (now Great Yarmouth Minster) on 21 Sep 1751.

The name Farrow is primarily a name of English origin that means Ironsmith.

Farrow and Esther Salter had at least 11 children:

1. Thomas Salter bap. 12 Aug 1753 at St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth
2. Christiana Salter bap. 28 Sep 1756 at St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth (given name on baptism was written and transcribed as Christian, however, Christiana has been used in the family and she married as Christina.)
3. Esther Salter b. ~1758. Buried at St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, daughter of Farrow and Esther, on 27 Jul 1759 (with no corresponding baptism). 
4. Esther Salter bap. 10 May 1760 at the Yarmouth, Gaol Street, Old Meeting (Presbyterian). Buried 17 Dec 1764 in Yarmouth, Norfolk.
5. Rebecca Salter bap. 10 Nov 1762 at Yarmouth, Gaol Street, Old Meeting
6. Farrow Salter bap. 6 May 1765 in Great Yarmouth. Buried 18 May 1766 at St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth
7. Farrow Salter bap. 26 May 1767 in Great Yarmouth
8. Esther Salter bap. 11 Oct 1769 at Yarmouth, Gaol Street, Old Meeting
9. Ann Salter bap. 15 May 1772 at Yarmouth, Gaol Street, Old Meeting
10. Sarah Salter bap. 19 Apr 1775 at Yarmouth, Gaol Street, Old Meeting
11. Judith Salter bap. 13 Jul 1778 at Yarmouth, Gaol Street, Old Meeting (Presbyterian). Buried 8 Jan 1786 in Yarmouth, Norfolk (record specifies father as Farrow and mother as Esther Mason.)

In 1790, Farrow Salter (60) was listed in the record set, British Mariners, Trinity House Calendars. This was one of the Trinity House Petitions of merchant sailors who were seeking financial assistance from the Corporation of Trinity House at Deptford in Kent and London. The Corporation distributed charitable funds entrusted to it by benefactors for the aid of seafarers and their dependents. Presumably, Farrow Salter was a mariner who had become unable to work.

Farrow Salter died at 67 and was buried on 25 Apr 1797 at Great Yarmouth. 

Hester (sic) Salter was buried on 10 Dec 1805 in Horsleydown, Surrey, the area of Bermondsey / Southwark where her daughter Esther Smith was living.

Charles Smith, Rebecca Salter and Esther Salter

Great Yarmouth St. Nicholas Minster
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Charles Smith (b. 1762) of the parish of Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, Mariner, married Rebecca Salter daughter of Farrow Salter and Esther Mason, at what is now the church of St. Nicholas Minster, Great Yarmouth, on 9 Sep 1783. 

Charles and Rebecca Smith had three daughters, all baptised at Great Yarmouth, St Nicholas with St Peter, St John, St Andrew, St James, St Paul & St Luke:

1. Rebecca Smith b. 19 May 1785, bap. 24 May 1785
2. Margaret Smith b. 15 Aug 1786, bap. 20 Aug 1786
3. Esther Salter Smith b. 20 Feb 1789, bap. 4 Mar 1789. Buried 24 Oct 1790

However, Rebecca Salter Smith, wife of Charles Smith died aged 27 and was buried at Great Yarmouth, St Nicholas, on 27 Apr 1790.

Charles Smith then married Esther Salter, also daughter of Farrow Salter and Esther Mason, on 1 Nov 1791, at St Marylebone Parish Church, Marylebone Road, London. (Not the current St Marylebone Parish Church, but the 3rd church, opened in 1742, where Lord Byron was baptised in 1788; Admiral Horatio Nelson was a worshipper there and his daughter Horatia was baptised there. This is also the church where diplomat Sir William Hamilton married Emma Hart, later Nelson's lover. The old church closed in 1926, but was not demolished until 1949, following WWII bomb damage. Its site, Old Church Garden, is now a Garden of Rest, created in 1951.) Charles Smith was marrying his late wife's sister. This was forbidden under ecclesiastical law (but not illegal until the Marriage Act in 1835). However, in 1791, the marriage between a widower and his wife’s sister, was valid but voidable. It could be voided or annulled if successfully challenged by any interested party. Perhaps there was less chance of them being challenged in London.

I've found records for four children to Charles and Esther Smith:

1. Charles Smith b. 19 Aug 1793, bap. 22 Aug 1793 at St. Nicholas, now Great Yarmouth Minster. Died, at 5, and was buried on 22 Aug 1798.
2. Ann Smith b. 29 Mar 1801, bap. 24 Apr 1801 at Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey, London.
3. Christiana Smith b. 1 Jan 1803, bap. 28 Jan 1803 at Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey. Died, aged 4, and was buried on 7 Nov 1806 at Southwark, St John, the Parish Church of Horsleydown, Horsleydown, Surrey, described as being 'from the Parish of St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey'.
4. Mary Smith b. 10 Dec 1805, bap. 2 Feb 1806 at Saint Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey.

St. Nicholas, Great Yarmouth, being such a large church, seems to have been a very busy place in the 1790s. There were, for example, several lads called Charles Smith baptised there in 1793, but enormous thanks to the clerks there, who had clearly foreseen the potential for confusion and listed the mother's full name, with maiden name, on all the baptisms, as well as specifying that detail on the 1798 burial.

There are no records of further children baptised to this couple in Great Yarmouth, nor in Bermondsey that I can find. That's not to say there weren't any. It's clear they were still in the parish of St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey at least until 1806, but I'm less confident of being able to follow their story further.

Charles Smith will inevitably be more difficult to pin down. That I've got this far with a Smith is close to miraculous. It was only by working down the children of William Arthur Sawyer and Ann Smith (they named their first Ann Salter Sawyer, so I was sure that Salter was Ann's mother's maiden name), that revealed the aunt, Ann's sister, Mary Smith, who, in turn, named her father on her marriage in 1856 as Charles Smith that then allowed me to find the girls' baptisms with common parents and that led to finding the marriage. This is a lesson in why it's a huge mistake to concentrate only on direct ancestors: they may be hiding in collateral lines. 

James Markham Redmore and Ann Elizabeth Newton

St. James's Church, Sutton-on-Hull
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James Markham Redmore (b. 1847), Clerk, son of Henry Redmore and Martha Markham, married Ann Elizabeth Newton (bap. 3 Jan 1855 at St Mark's, Hull) daughter of John Newton, Ship's Carpenter, and Sarah Ann Woodmancey, at St James's Church, Sutton-on-Hull, on 4 Sep 1871. James (24) gave his residence as The Groves - then Hull's most notorious slum area - while Anne (18) gave hers as Spring Street. Witnesses were John Boyle Power [1] and Emily Redmore, who was James' younger sister - she may have been Ann's bridesmaid.

[1] John Boyle Power, who quite likely was James' best man, in 1861, had been listed as a Telegraph clerk from Ireland. The notice of his death at the age of 87 in 1932, described him as late Superintendent Hull G.P.O. Telegraph Department.

James and Anne had five children:

1. Ada Mary Redmore b. 20 Jan 1873 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 148, bap. 23 Feb 1873 at St. Mark's Church, Hull
2. Alfred Redmore b. 1874 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 120, bap. 6 May 1875 at St. Mark's Church, Hull
3. Eva Redmore b. 7 Apr 1876 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 118, bap. 23 Apr 1876 at St. Mark's Church, Hull
4. Sarah Elizabeth Redmore b. 11 Feb 1878 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 126, bap. 18 Feb 1878 at St. Mark's Church, Hull. Died in  1878 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 83, buried on 21 Feb 1878.
5. John William Newton Redmore b. 1879 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 123

All five birth registrations confirm the mother's maiden name NEWTON.

In 1881, James M Redmore (34) Merchants Clerk was living in the household of his mother-in-law, Sarah Ann Newton (60) Widow, Grocer at 1, St Mark Street, Sutton and Stoneferry, Sculcoates (St Mark's Street was in The Groves), with Annie E Redmore (26), Ada M Redmore (8), Alfred Redmore (6), Eva Redmore (5), John W N Redmore (2) and Sara E Leonard (19) General servant.

In 1891, James Markham Redmore (44) Shipping foreman was living at 49, Durham Street, Southcoates, Sculcoates, with Annie Eliz Redmore (35), Alfred Redmore (16) Merchant's clerk; Eva Redmore (14) and John Wm Newton Redmore (11). That year, Ada M Redmore (18) was living with her Aunt Mary Travis (69) Widow, Grocer at 78, Grange Street, Sculcoates. (Actually her Great Aunt: born Mary Markham, she was James Markham Redmore's mother, Martha's, sister.)

In 1901, James M Redmore (54) Ships Cargo Superintendent was at 16, Brazil Street, Kingston upon Hull, with Annie E Redmore (46), Alfred Redmore (26) Printer; John W N Redmore (22) Stonemason and Sarah A Massey (80) Widow, Retired grocer (Mother-in-law - Annie's mother had remarried in 1882).

In 1911, James Markham Redmore (64) Ship cargo superintendent and Annie Elizabeth Redmore (56), were living at 7 Eastbourn[e] Avenue, Arundel Street, Sculcoates. All of the children had flown the nest, but the 1911 census confirms that the couple had 5 children, with 4 living, during their 39 year marriage.

James Markham Redmore, Cargo Superintendent, of 8 Balfour Crescent, Nornabell Street, Hull, died from Cardiac Failure, aged 69, on 8 Dec 1916 (1916 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 169) and was buried on 12 Dec 1916 at the City Cemetery, Hedon Road (Compartment 230, Grave 36).

In 1921, Annie Redmore (66) Widow, was living at 1, Beeton Street, Hull.

Annie Elizabeth Redmore, Widow, of 818 Holderness Road, died, aged 78, from Senile Decay, on 24 Jan 1933 (1933 M Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 313). The announcement in the Hull Daily Mail of the 25th, lists her as the "dearly loved mother of Ada Simpson and Eva Sowerby." Annie Elizabeth Redmore, was also buried, on 27 Jan 1933, at the City Cemetery, Hedon Road in Compartment 230, Grave 36, along with her late husband.

• Ada Mary Redmore married Arthur Rounding Simpson in Sculcoates, in 1895. This was Arthur's 2nd marriage: he previously married Margaret Graham Miller, also in Sculcoates, in 1887, with whom he had a daughter, Agnes Jane Simpson b. 1889 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 165. In 1901, Arthur R Simpson (35) Estate agent; Ada M Simpson (28) and Agnes J Simpson (11) were living at 86, Durham Street, Kingston upon Hull. In 1911, still at 86 Durham Street, were Arthur Rounding Simpson (45) Manager - estate agent surveyor; Ada Mary Simpson (37), Agnes Jane Simpson (21) and Florence Emily Seeley (17) Servant. In 1921, they lived at 88 Durham Street. Ada Mary Simpson died, aged 60, at a Nursing Home, on 29 Dec 1933 (1933 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 254), "dearly loved wife of Arthur R Simpson, Estate Agent of 818 Holdereness Road, after much suffering so patiently borne". (818 Holdernes Road is still ARTHURTON HOUSE). Arthur Rounding Simpson died on 14 May 1935.
• Eva Redmore married James Walker Sowerby in Sculcoates, in 1897. By 1911, they were listed as having 10 children, of whom 7 were living.
• John William Newton Redmore married Emily Sarah Barron, in Sculcoates, in 1905. They had 3 children before John died in 1917.